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Inutile de redire ici ce que l'on trouve par centaines ou milliers de sujets sur Internet (en tapant Dubai sur google c'est incroyable) concernant la crise financière qui semble mettre Dubai dans une situation très critique.
Alors question ciblée a ce forum
- cette crise risque t elle de toucher le Cie emirates, ou d'autres cies ayant des fonds issus de Dubai
- et EADS/Airbus sachant que emirates ets un gros client Airbus et Dubai au travers fond investissement actionnaire !
Alors question ciblée a ce forum
- cette crise risque t elle de toucher le Cie emirates, ou d'autres cies ayant des fonds issus de Dubai
- et EADS/Airbus sachant que emirates ets un gros client Airbus et Dubai au travers fond investissement actionnaire !
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Du tout
Emirates IPO 'in two to three years'
Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum, Chairman of Emirates Airline has said the carrier may be ready to launch an initial public offering in two to three years, Bloomberg has reported. 'Because the market is going towards growth, within two to three years from now would be excellent,' he said, adding that any decision on the matter would rest with the government. In the six months to September, the group's sales fell 13.5% on lower passenger and cargo yields, forcing cost cuts in order to increase earnings
Emirates increases Middle East flights
Emirates Airline has announced plans to launch three more flights per week to Amman, Jordan beginning December 1. The Dubai-based carrier is also adding an extra flight to Doha, Qatar from the same date, bringing the airline's total number of flights per week to Middle Eastern destinations from 197 to 201.
Emirates' A380 to fly to Paris one month early
Emirates Airline has announced that it will serve Paris with the A380 superjumbo from 29th December, one month earlier than planned. The airline had previously announced that the aircraft would head to Paris Charles de Gaulle from 1st February next year, but an operational review, coupled with demand on the route, has led to an earlier introduction, the carrier said. The 489-seat aircraft will be incorporated into Emirates' double daily flights to Paris. It will initially service three of the morning departures from Dubai, becoming daily from 17th January 2010.
Emirates to fly to Tokyo
Emirates Airline has announced plans to launch services to its second destination in Japan with flights to Tokyo beginning March 28, 2010. The carrier, which currently flies daily to Osaka, will fly non-stop to Tokyo five times a week on every Monday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Tokyo will be Emirates' 102nd international destination.
L'aéroport de DXB se porte à merveille, à lire
http://www.ameinfo.com/216337.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Emirates IPO 'in two to three years'
Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum, Chairman of Emirates Airline has said the carrier may be ready to launch an initial public offering in two to three years, Bloomberg has reported. 'Because the market is going towards growth, within two to three years from now would be excellent,' he said, adding that any decision on the matter would rest with the government. In the six months to September, the group's sales fell 13.5% on lower passenger and cargo yields, forcing cost cuts in order to increase earnings
Emirates increases Middle East flights
Emirates Airline has announced plans to launch three more flights per week to Amman, Jordan beginning December 1. The Dubai-based carrier is also adding an extra flight to Doha, Qatar from the same date, bringing the airline's total number of flights per week to Middle Eastern destinations from 197 to 201.
Emirates' A380 to fly to Paris one month early
Emirates Airline has announced that it will serve Paris with the A380 superjumbo from 29th December, one month earlier than planned. The airline had previously announced that the aircraft would head to Paris Charles de Gaulle from 1st February next year, but an operational review, coupled with demand on the route, has led to an earlier introduction, the carrier said. The 489-seat aircraft will be incorporated into Emirates' double daily flights to Paris. It will initially service three of the morning departures from Dubai, becoming daily from 17th January 2010.
Emirates to fly to Tokyo
Emirates Airline has announced plans to launch services to its second destination in Japan with flights to Tokyo beginning March 28, 2010. The carrier, which currently flies daily to Osaka, will fly non-stop to Tokyo five times a week on every Monday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Tokyo will be Emirates' 102nd international destination.
L'aéroport de DXB se porte à merveille, à lire
http://www.ameinfo.com/216337.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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C'est aussi, a ce jour, mon avis même si je me mefie un peu des com. de presse dans ce genre de situation.AVION a écrit :Du tout
Je pense plus que les autres Cies ou des fonds de Dubai sont présent souffriraient avant emirates.
pour Eads/Airbus, mm commentaire.
... maintenant si la situation a Dubai entraine le dollar dans une chute infernale, ça pourrait être différeént!
Michel
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A lire
http://www.boursier.com/vals/ALL/econom ... 360302.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
le sauvetage du voisin ne se fera sans doute pas sans quelques grimaces a Dubai, et pour en revenir a l'aerien qu'en sera t il du rapport de force entre Emirates - Etihad
http://www.boursier.com/vals/ALL/econom ... 360302.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
le sauvetage du voisin ne se fera sans doute pas sans quelques grimaces a Dubai, et pour en revenir a l'aerien qu'en sera t il du rapport de force entre Emirates - Etihad
Michel
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A lire lapresse, Le Monde en fait état , Etihad semble montrer un certain agacement vis a vis de emirates même si il a déjà été annoncé que Abu Dhabi n'envisageait pas d'en prendre le controle !michel446 a écrit :... qu'en sera t il du rapport de force entre Emirates - Etihad
... a suivre tout de même espérant pour emirates de ne pas avoir besoin de trop de $$$ venant de chez son vosin !
Michel
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Emirates boss says airline will not be affected by debt crisis
The president of Emirates Airlines said The Dubai business community was 'shocked' by the debt crisis which has struck the emirate, Emirates Airline President Tim Clark told the Sunday Telegraph newspaper. 'We are all a bit shocked by what's happened and the global fall-out of the past 24 hours,' he said. 'But Dubai will navigate itself out of this, as will we. I am confident that the airline will not be affected by this.'
The president of Emirates Airlines said The Dubai business community was 'shocked' by the debt crisis which has struck the emirate, Emirates Airline President Tim Clark told the Sunday Telegraph newspaper. 'We are all a bit shocked by what's happened and the global fall-out of the past 24 hours,' he said. 'But Dubai will navigate itself out of this, as will we. I am confident that the airline will not be affected by this.'
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Effectivement No problem ... si comme je l'ai évoqué juste avant la Cie n'a pas trop besoin de $$$ de son voisin sinonAVION a écrit :Emirates boss says airline will not be affected by debt crisis...'
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un autre son de cloche ! emirates "en garantie" pour Abu Dhabi !!!!!AVION a écrit :Emirates boss says airline will not be affected by debt crisis.'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009 ... dubai-debt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Michel
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Emirates a ‘bargaining chip’ in Dubai debt crisis?
Emirates Airline has emerged as a possible bargaining chip in Dubai’s attempt to stabilise its debt mountain, reports the Guardian.
Economists at French bank Societe Generale have said Dubai might have to offer Emirates as “collateral” in order to ensure a bailout from neighbour Abu Dhabi.
They suggest this could happen by merging with Abu Dhabi’s Etihad Airways.
Speaking to Bloomberg.com, Vivek Tawadey, head of credit portfolio strategy at BNP Paribas, said:
“It [Emirates] could be on the table. It is one of Dubai’s crown jewels, it has very strong market reputation and it also acts as a hub between Asia, the Middle East and Europe.”
Emirates is owned by the Investment Corporation of Dubai, which is in turn controlled by the Dubai government, as is Dubai World, which is the source of the current financial crisis.
Both airlines have denied any talk of a merger.
Emirates boss Maurice Flanagan, speaking to Bloomberg, said Dubai is unlikely to sell Emirates to help raise funds or to allow a merger, Flanagan said. The company also has no plans to join any of the global airline alliances.
Etihad said there are “no talks” about a deal with Emirates.
Emirates is one of the world’s few international airlines that is profitable, posting a net profit of £163m after carrying 22.7 million passengers last year.
Markets across the world have stabilised as Dubai World enters into talks to restructure its debt pile
Emirates Airline has emerged as a possible bargaining chip in Dubai’s attempt to stabilise its debt mountain, reports the Guardian.
Economists at French bank Societe Generale have said Dubai might have to offer Emirates as “collateral” in order to ensure a bailout from neighbour Abu Dhabi.
They suggest this could happen by merging with Abu Dhabi’s Etihad Airways.
Speaking to Bloomberg.com, Vivek Tawadey, head of credit portfolio strategy at BNP Paribas, said:
“It [Emirates] could be on the table. It is one of Dubai’s crown jewels, it has very strong market reputation and it also acts as a hub between Asia, the Middle East and Europe.”
Emirates is owned by the Investment Corporation of Dubai, which is in turn controlled by the Dubai government, as is Dubai World, which is the source of the current financial crisis.
Both airlines have denied any talk of a merger.
Emirates boss Maurice Flanagan, speaking to Bloomberg, said Dubai is unlikely to sell Emirates to help raise funds or to allow a merger, Flanagan said. The company also has no plans to join any of the global airline alliances.
Etihad said there are “no talks” about a deal with Emirates.
Emirates is one of the world’s few international airlines that is profitable, posting a net profit of £163m after carrying 22.7 million passengers last year.
Markets across the world have stabilised as Dubai World enters into talks to restructure its debt pile
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Emirates Airline debt not guaranteed by Dubai Government
According to Dow Jones:
The debts of Emirates Airline, Dubai's most prized company and the biggest customer for the giant Airbus A380 superjumbo, aren't guaranteed by the sheikdom's government, an official at the company said.
"None of our loans or bonds is guaranteed by the government of Dubai," said the spokesman for Emirates in an email to Zawya Dow Jones Thursday.
Dubai's government said this week that it isn't responsible for the $26 billion worth of direct debt it's trying to restructure belonging to one of its largest state-owned companies Dubai World.
Emirates, the Middle East's largest airline and one of Dubai's best assets, has borrowed heavily to build its fleet and challenge the world's leading carriers. The company has 10 loans and bonds maturing by 2013, according to Standard & Poor's.
The company is part of Investment Corporation of Dubai, a giant government-owned holding company set up to house the sheikdom's best assets.
According to Dow Jones:
The debts of Emirates Airline, Dubai's most prized company and the biggest customer for the giant Airbus A380 superjumbo, aren't guaranteed by the sheikdom's government, an official at the company said.
"None of our loans or bonds is guaranteed by the government of Dubai," said the spokesman for Emirates in an email to Zawya Dow Jones Thursday.
Dubai's government said this week that it isn't responsible for the $26 billion worth of direct debt it's trying to restructure belonging to one of its largest state-owned companies Dubai World.
Emirates, the Middle East's largest airline and one of Dubai's best assets, has borrowed heavily to build its fleet and challenge the world's leading carriers. The company has 10 loans and bonds maturing by 2013, according to Standard & Poor's.
The company is part of Investment Corporation of Dubai, a giant government-owned holding company set up to house the sheikdom's best assets.
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Emirates to begin flights to Amsterdam
DUBAI, U.A.E.: Emirates is to launch flights to Amsterdam from 1st May 2010.
The international airline of the UAE is also promising further new route announcements in the coming months, supported by continuing aircraft deliveries. The blossoming of the airline's 23rd route into Europe will bring much awaited news in The Netherlands. The daily, non-stop service from Dubai will be operated with a combination of 777-200LR and 777-300ER aircraft, boasting a three-class configuration and the newest version of ice, the passenger revered in-flight entertainment system. Emirates, with its exquisite Private Suites, will be the only airline offering First Class accommodation on the route. This is the fourth new destination to be announced this year by the Dubai-based carrier. Durban and Luanda were both launched in October and Tokyo was recently announced with a start date of 28th March 2010. His Highness Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum, Chairman and Chief Executive, Emirates Airline & Group, said: “We are extremely pleased to announce a new service into Europe at this time and I'm sure it's a development that will be welcomed with open arms in The Netherlands. Amsterdam is already an important offline market for Emirates and we know there is significant passenger traffic heading from Amsterdam to Dubai and onto Africa, the Indian Sub-continent, Asia and the Far East." Sheikh Ahmed added: "This is also a major freight hub and one of the world's renowned flower centres. Emirates has served The Netherlands as a freighter destination for fifteen years and currently offers six 747-400 freighter flights a week between Dubai and Amsterdam. The daily passenger flight will allow us to bolster our cargo offering by making use of the belly hold capacity." Starting 1st May next year, EK 145 will leave Dubai each day at 0825hrs and arrive in Amsterdam at 1330hrs. From Amsterdam, EK 146 departs at 1530hrs, arriving in Dubai at 2359hrs. The new European service comes on the back of exclusive lounge openings in Dusseldorf, Hamburg and Manchester and extra frequencies to Rome, building up to a double daily in February. During December, Emirates will take delivery of two further A380s, which will be deployed to Seoul from 14th December and Paris two weeks later. Last month, the carrier announced half year net profits of Dhs 752 million (US$205 million), representing a 165 percent increase compared to Dhs 284 million (US$77 million) for the period ending 30th September 2008. During the latest results period, the airline carried over 13 million passengers, in excess of 700,000 tonnes of cargo and made an estimated direct contribution of Dhs 10 billion (US$2.72 billion) to the UAE economy.
DUBAI, U.A.E.: Emirates is to launch flights to Amsterdam from 1st May 2010.
The international airline of the UAE is also promising further new route announcements in the coming months, supported by continuing aircraft deliveries. The blossoming of the airline's 23rd route into Europe will bring much awaited news in The Netherlands. The daily, non-stop service from Dubai will be operated with a combination of 777-200LR and 777-300ER aircraft, boasting a three-class configuration and the newest version of ice, the passenger revered in-flight entertainment system. Emirates, with its exquisite Private Suites, will be the only airline offering First Class accommodation on the route. This is the fourth new destination to be announced this year by the Dubai-based carrier. Durban and Luanda were both launched in October and Tokyo was recently announced with a start date of 28th March 2010. His Highness Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum, Chairman and Chief Executive, Emirates Airline & Group, said: “We are extremely pleased to announce a new service into Europe at this time and I'm sure it's a development that will be welcomed with open arms in The Netherlands. Amsterdam is already an important offline market for Emirates and we know there is significant passenger traffic heading from Amsterdam to Dubai and onto Africa, the Indian Sub-continent, Asia and the Far East." Sheikh Ahmed added: "This is also a major freight hub and one of the world's renowned flower centres. Emirates has served The Netherlands as a freighter destination for fifteen years and currently offers six 747-400 freighter flights a week between Dubai and Amsterdam. The daily passenger flight will allow us to bolster our cargo offering by making use of the belly hold capacity." Starting 1st May next year, EK 145 will leave Dubai each day at 0825hrs and arrive in Amsterdam at 1330hrs. From Amsterdam, EK 146 departs at 1530hrs, arriving in Dubai at 2359hrs. The new European service comes on the back of exclusive lounge openings in Dusseldorf, Hamburg and Manchester and extra frequencies to Rome, building up to a double daily in February. During December, Emirates will take delivery of two further A380s, which will be deployed to Seoul from 14th December and Paris two weeks later. Last month, the carrier announced half year net profits of Dhs 752 million (US$205 million), representing a 165 percent increase compared to Dhs 284 million (US$77 million) for the period ending 30th September 2008. During the latest results period, the airline carried over 13 million passengers, in excess of 700,000 tonnes of cargo and made an estimated direct contribution of Dhs 10 billion (US$2.72 billion) to the UAE economy.
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Honnetement je ne sais plus trop quoi penser sur la situation réelle de émirates, les com. de presse en serie ne sont pas tjrs le gage de la réalité !
wait and see et no panic !
wait and see et no panic !
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Allez un "ptit WE" a Dubai
http://www.tourmagazine.fr/Emirats-arab ... 11462.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
avec au passage sur cet article un petit couplet sur emirates ... rassurant, tout va bien ! ce dont je ne doute pas actuellement, mais faut il afficher comme ça sa "bonne santé" ?
http://www.tourmagazine.fr/Emirats-arab ... 11462.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
avec au passage sur cet article un petit couplet sur emirates ... rassurant, tout va bien ! ce dont je ne doute pas actuellement, mais faut il afficher comme ça sa "bonne santé" ?
Michel
Re: Emirates
Tout à fait d'accord avec l'article.michel446 a écrit :Allez un "ptit WE" a Dubai
http://www.tourmagazine.fr/Emirats-arab ... 11462.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
avec au passage sur cet article un petit couplet sur emirates ... rassurant, tout va bien ! ce dont je ne doute pas actuellement, mais faut il afficher comme ça sa "bonne santé" ?
Et il est vrai que le Gaulois a la critique facile. Que tout succés rapide il le jalouse et le dénigre
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Abu Dhabi veut sa part d'Emirates
Les créanciers de Dubaï veulent être remboursés au plus vite. Malgré ses réticences, l'émirat en faillite pourrait donc se voir contraint de vendre les fleurons de son économie : les toujours très lucratifs Dubaï Port et la compagnie aérienne Emirates.
Ces deux actifs seraient, selon plusieurs observateurs, conditionnel de l'aide salvatrice d'Abu Dhabi. Car le riche voisin, doté d'un fonds souverain de 625 Md$, a largement les moyen de venir au secours de Dubaï. Depuis le début de l'année, il a déjà racheté 15 Md$ de dettes de l'émirat.
Si Abu Dhabi obtient des parts dans la compagnie, la stratégie d'Emirates pourrait-elle changer ? L'émirat dispose déjà de sa propre compagnie nationale, Etihad. Cette dernière, lancée en 2004, est toujours en phase de décollage et n'a jamais encore annoncé de résultat positif. En revanche, Emirates est aujourd'hui une des rares majors a avoir résisté à la crise. Elle a enregistré un bénéfice de 205 M$ (+165%) au premier semestre et s’attend à ce que son résultat soit encore meilleur au second.
Les créanciers de Dubaï veulent être remboursés au plus vite. Malgré ses réticences, l'émirat en faillite pourrait donc se voir contraint de vendre les fleurons de son économie : les toujours très lucratifs Dubaï Port et la compagnie aérienne Emirates.
Ces deux actifs seraient, selon plusieurs observateurs, conditionnel de l'aide salvatrice d'Abu Dhabi. Car le riche voisin, doté d'un fonds souverain de 625 Md$, a largement les moyen de venir au secours de Dubaï. Depuis le début de l'année, il a déjà racheté 15 Md$ de dettes de l'émirat.
Si Abu Dhabi obtient des parts dans la compagnie, la stratégie d'Emirates pourrait-elle changer ? L'émirat dispose déjà de sa propre compagnie nationale, Etihad. Cette dernière, lancée en 2004, est toujours en phase de décollage et n'a jamais encore annoncé de résultat positif. En revanche, Emirates est aujourd'hui une des rares majors a avoir résisté à la crise. Elle a enregistré un bénéfice de 205 M$ (+165%) au premier semestre et s’attend à ce que son résultat soit encore meilleur au second.
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Ce que je pense depuis le début ! et avec le recul on voit que tt a été bien orchestré par Dubai et Abu DhabiAVION a écrit :Abu Dhabi veut sa part d'Emirates.
... il n'y a qua' regarder les dates et mm heures des 1erses annonces
Michel
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State aid 'not needed' for Emirates bond payments
Tim Clark, president of Emirates Airline has said that government help is not needed to repay $1.7bn of outstanding debt, Meed has reported. Dubai's flagship carrier has 10 loans and bonds worth a total of $1.7bn which are due to mature by 2013, according to Standard and Poor's. Dubai's carrier currently has 151 planes on order, worth $50bn.
Tim Clark, president of Emirates Airline has said that government help is not needed to repay $1.7bn of outstanding debt, Meed has reported. Dubai's flagship carrier has 10 loans and bonds worth a total of $1.7bn which are due to mature by 2013, according to Standard and Poor's. Dubai's carrier currently has 151 planes on order, worth $50bn.
Re: Emirates
Après AMS qui débutera le 1er mai, Emirates lancera Prague à partir du 1er juillet 2010 à raison d’un vol quotidien en A330-200 biclasse.
SmartWings est déjà présent sur PRG-DXB en charters et 737.
Selon les données BSP, 22,000 pax ont voyagé sur cette route entre septembre 08-09, SmartWings ayant une PDM de 40%.Une grande partie des pax voyagent actuellement via VIE.
Selon Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum, President & CEO d’Emirates Group : "This embraces a popular European tourist destination and an emerging market. We have been keen to add Prague to our six continent network and now the time is right to start up our 24th European destination."
SmartWings est déjà présent sur PRG-DXB en charters et 737.
Selon les données BSP, 22,000 pax ont voyagé sur cette route entre septembre 08-09, SmartWings ayant une PDM de 40%.Une grande partie des pax voyagent actuellement via VIE.
Selon Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum, President & CEO d’Emirates Group : "This embraces a popular European tourist destination and an emerging market. We have been keen to add Prague to our six continent network and now the time is right to start up our 24th European destination."
Re: Emirates
C'est AF qui va pas être contente, parce pour EY et EK c'est que du bonheur si l'OpenSky est signé avec l'UE
UAE to ink open skies deal with 10 countries
The UAE's General Civil Aviation Authority (GCCA) has said it plans to sign open sky agreements with at least 10 countries in 2010, Khaleej Times has reported. "We will be signing open sky agreements with Australia and Nepal in the first quarter of 2010. Talks are in progress with India and Pakistan also to work out an open sky agreement with them at the earliest,' said Saif Mohammed Al Suwaidi, Director-General of GCCA. Al Suwaidi also said that the UAE was in talks with the European Union concerning a horizontal agreement on open sky policies instead of talking to individual member countries.
UAE to ink open skies deal with 10 countries
The UAE's General Civil Aviation Authority (GCCA) has said it plans to sign open sky agreements with at least 10 countries in 2010, Khaleej Times has reported. "We will be signing open sky agreements with Australia and Nepal in the first quarter of 2010. Talks are in progress with India and Pakistan also to work out an open sky agreement with them at the earliest,' said Saif Mohammed Al Suwaidi, Director-General of GCCA. Al Suwaidi also said that the UAE was in talks with the European Union concerning a horizontal agreement on open sky policies instead of talking to individual member countries.
Re: Emirates
Après avoir annoncé sa 25ème destination européenne (Madrid) il y a environ trois semaines dont le 1er vol débutera en août en A330, la compagnie annonce le lancement de Tokyo.
Emirates volera donc dès fin mars vers Narita avec un 777-300ER, 5 fois/semaine.
Plus de 26000 pax voyagent ente les deux villes, CX puis SQ ont les PDM les plus élevées pour l'instant.
Au même moment, Etihad se lancera vers Narita en A332 triclassse également 5 fois/semaine alors que Qatar prolongera ses vols vers KIX jusqu’à NRT de manière quotidienne dès fin avril.
Emirates volera donc dès fin mars vers Narita avec un 777-300ER, 5 fois/semaine.
Plus de 26000 pax voyagent ente les deux villes, CX puis SQ ont les PDM les plus élevées pour l'instant.
Au même moment, Etihad se lancera vers Narita en A332 triclassse également 5 fois/semaine alors que Qatar prolongera ses vols vers KIX jusqu’à NRT de manière quotidienne dès fin avril.