Tout à fait, c'est dans l'air depuis un moment, mais ils semblent quand même frileux à l'idée pour le moment, alors un tel accord leur permet de tâter le terrain sans pour autant prendre des risques. C'est ça que je voulais dire...Flyzen a écrit :Suis d'accord sauf que pour me moment c'est JetBlue avec ses machines qui envisage des vols sur l'Europe avec une classe businessOps-Marco a écrit :Justement, tout bénef' pour JetBlue, qui met ainsi un pied dans le business du transatlantique sans prendre le risque d'opérer les lignes eux-mêmes...
https://www.travelmarketreport.com/arti ... ic-Flights
Primera Air
- Ops-Marco
- B777
- Messages : 384
- Enregistré le : jeu. 13 nov. 2008, 18:24
- Localisation : Entre LIS et GVA
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Déclaré en faillite dès demain....!
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https://twitter.com/aviation24_be/statu ... 07360?s=09
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Du coup leurs commandes de 737 MAX et dA321 NÉO vont être annulés?
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Même date que la faillite de monarch ! Le 2 octobreuralflyer a écrit :Déclaré en faillite dès demain....!
https://twitter.com/aviation24_be/statu ... 07360?s=09
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du coup les airbus A321 sont dispo pour Swiss skies...
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oui mais le business model a du plomb dans l'aile .... même si le concept diffère un peu.du coup les airbus A321 sont dispo pour Swiss skies...
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https://primeraair.com/travel-alert/
Le communiqué officiel:
With a great regret, we must inform you that Primera Air will cease all operations on the midnight of October 1st, 2018 and enter administration process, after 14 years of operations.
This is a sad day for all the employees and passengers of Primera Air. The company has been working relentlessly during the last months to secure the long-term financing of the airline. Not being able to reach an agreement with our bank for a bridge financing, we had no other choice than filing for bankruptcy.
During the last 2 years, several unforeseen misfortunate events severely affected the financial standing of Primera Air. In 2017, the company lost one aircraft from operations due to severe corrosion problems and had to bear the total cost of rebuilding, resulted in a loss of more than 10 million euros. 2018 began with a fantastic start of our low-cost long-haul project with a brand-new Airbus 321neo fleet, however, due to severe delays of aircraft deliveries this beginning ended up being rocky and incredibly problematic: operational issues, cancelations of number of flights, loss of revenues are just a few to mention. In addition, to fulfill our obligations in front of passengers, Primera Air leased in aircraft and beared additional costs of over 20 million euros.
Weighting the potential losses due to future delivery delays, and the added exposure to our partners and lessors, and bearing in mind the difficult environment that airlines are facing now due to low prices and high fuel costs, we have decided to cease operations now, where it will have a smaller effect on our clients, due to the timing of the year, rather than increasing the exposure. Without additional financing, we do not see any possibility to continue our operations.
This is an enormous disappointment after the incredible hard work and dedication put into building the airline. The company wants to sincerely thank all its employees for their hard work and dedication, its clients for years of loyal support and its suppliers for their cooperation during the years.
Le communiqué officiel:
With a great regret, we must inform you that Primera Air will cease all operations on the midnight of October 1st, 2018 and enter administration process, after 14 years of operations.
This is a sad day for all the employees and passengers of Primera Air. The company has been working relentlessly during the last months to secure the long-term financing of the airline. Not being able to reach an agreement with our bank for a bridge financing, we had no other choice than filing for bankruptcy.
During the last 2 years, several unforeseen misfortunate events severely affected the financial standing of Primera Air. In 2017, the company lost one aircraft from operations due to severe corrosion problems and had to bear the total cost of rebuilding, resulted in a loss of more than 10 million euros. 2018 began with a fantastic start of our low-cost long-haul project with a brand-new Airbus 321neo fleet, however, due to severe delays of aircraft deliveries this beginning ended up being rocky and incredibly problematic: operational issues, cancelations of number of flights, loss of revenues are just a few to mention. In addition, to fulfill our obligations in front of passengers, Primera Air leased in aircraft and beared additional costs of over 20 million euros.
Weighting the potential losses due to future delivery delays, and the added exposure to our partners and lessors, and bearing in mind the difficult environment that airlines are facing now due to low prices and high fuel costs, we have decided to cease operations now, where it will have a smaller effect on our clients, due to the timing of the year, rather than increasing the exposure. Without additional financing, we do not see any possibility to continue our operations.
This is an enormous disappointment after the incredible hard work and dedication put into building the airline. The company wants to sincerely thank all its employees for their hard work and dedication, its clients for years of loyal support and its suppliers for their cooperation during the years.
- Flyzen
- A380
- Messages : 13771
- Enregistré le : mer. 24 sept. 2008, 07:14
- Localisation : Vendée (proche 44)
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OUI ce "modèle Primera" a plus que du plomb dans l'aileuralflyer a écrit : oui mais le business model a du plomb dans l'aile ...
... reste surement pour le trafic transatlantique la niche du trafic villes secondaires (province) vers une poignée de grandes villes US mais avoir voulu aller piquer des miettes aux majors sur les "grandes lignes" c'est l'erreur et comme évoqué juste avant pas de feeding limite fortement l'impact de ce genre de Cie
next ... Norwegian ( sur le concept ) mais sera surement reprise "avant"
a suivre surement un paysage low cost LC recomposé
IAG /BA avec level
LH avec eurowings
et si Ben secoue FORTEMENT le cocotier ...AF/KLM avec ... Joon
PS beau bordel en vue pour les TO qui avaient préparés leurs voyage 2019 USA avec cette Cie
Modifié en dernier par Flyzen le mar. 2 oct. 2018, 09:59, modifié 1 fois.
Michel
- Flyzen
- A380
- Messages : 13771
- Enregistré le : mer. 24 sept. 2008, 07:14
- Localisation : Vendée (proche 44)
Re: Primera Air
Et visiblement machine a la LIMITE coté autonomie ... Primera avait opté pour le modèle NEO PAS le NEO LRGosselies a écrit :... a brand-new Airbus 321neo fleet, however, due to severe delays of aircraft deliveries ...
Michel
- Flyzen
- A380
- Messages : 13771
- Enregistré le : mer. 24 sept. 2008, 07:14
- Localisation : Vendée (proche 44)
Re: Primera Air
A priori non car pour les A321 NEO ce n'était pas une Cde Primera Air mais du leasing donc les machines restent aux lessors pour les B737 MAX ??? mais je suppose qu'on est dans le mm cas de figureRapson a écrit :Du coup leurs commandes de 737 MAX et dA321 NÉO vont être annulés?
Michel
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- A380
- Messages : 7746
- Enregistré le : mer. 24 sept. 2008, 22:19
- Localisation : Paris Montpellier Kigali
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Les 321 basés à CDG, sont toujours bloqués au T3. Le loueur cherche à récupérer de l'argent, auprès de Primera Air (ou via des banques ou quelque chose comme ça) ?
Rwanda Aviation News (Drones, Air Force, Civil Aviation, Space, Air Balloon): https://www.facebook.com/RwandAn-Flyer-153177931456873
- Flyzen
- A380
- Messages : 13771
- Enregistré le : mer. 24 sept. 2008, 07:14
- Localisation : Vendée (proche 44)
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Non c'est impossible /illégal de récupérer des €€€ directement après un depôt de bilan, le loueur sera inscrit dans la liste des créances avec peu de chances de récupérer ses €€€.Rwandair Express a écrit :Les 321 basés à CDG, sont toujours bloqués au T3. Le loueur cherche à récupérer de l'argent, auprès de Primera Air (ou via des banques ou quelque chose comme ça) ?
Il peut récupérer ses machines mais je pense plus a un pbl d'équipage pour les convoyer (en hommes et en €€€) et/ou des €€€ pour payer au cul du camion le carburant
Michel