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Boeing devrait livrer le premier Dreamliner à Air India au dernier trimestre
BANGALORE (Inde), 9 fév 2011 (AFP)
Le géant américain Boeing a annoncé mercredi qu'il devrait livrer le premier des 27 appareils 787, ou Dreamliner, commandés par la compagnie Air India entre octobre et décembre, soit un retard de plusieurs années.
BANGALORE (Inde), 9 fév 2011 (AFP)
Le géant américain Boeing a annoncé mercredi qu'il devrait livrer le premier des 27 appareils 787, ou Dreamliner, commandés par la compagnie Air India entre octobre et décembre, soit un retard de plusieurs années.
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Comment faire de la com. lorsque il n'y a rien a dire sur les futures livraisons
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et la 1000eme heure en vol commercial c'est pour quand 2025 ++++
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et la 1000eme heure en vol commercial c'est pour quand 2025 ++++
Re: Encore du retard pour le 787
Flyzen a écrit :....et la 1000eme heure en vol commercial c'est pour quand 2025 ++++
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Re: Encore du retard pour le 787
Boeing dans les temps pour la première livraison du 787 au troisième trimestre
(Reuters) - Boeing est dans les délais pour la livraison du premier exemplaire du 787 au troisième trimestre, a annoncé vendredi le responsable de ce programme.
Scott Fancher s'adressait à la presse au site Boeing de San Antonio. Il a estimé qu'aucune annulation de commandes sur le 787 ne pouvait être attribuée aux retards de près de trois ans subis par le programme. "Les livraisons à nos premiers clients sont dans les délais pour le troisième trimestre", a-t-il dit.
Environ 840 exemplaires du "Dreamliner" ont été commandés.
Peu après 17h30 GMT, le titre Boeing gagnait 0,38% à 71,56 dollars, à la Bourse de New York
(Reuters) - Boeing est dans les délais pour la livraison du premier exemplaire du 787 au troisième trimestre, a annoncé vendredi le responsable de ce programme.
Scott Fancher s'adressait à la presse au site Boeing de San Antonio. Il a estimé qu'aucune annulation de commandes sur le 787 ne pouvait être attribuée aux retards de près de trois ans subis par le programme. "Les livraisons à nos premiers clients sont dans les délais pour le troisième trimestre", a-t-il dit.
Environ 840 exemplaires du "Dreamliner" ont été commandés.
Peu après 17h30 GMT, le titre Boeing gagnait 0,38% à 71,56 dollars, à la Bourse de New York
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On est un peu dans le registre de l'humour nonAVION a écrit :Boeing dans les temps pour la première livraison du 787 au troisième trimestre
et pour ce §
Peut etre que les Cies n'en avaient pas un reel besoin durant ces 3 ans (ça semble vrai pour certaines) et la pluie d $$$ pour compenser les retards a bien aidé les choses... Il a estimé qu'aucune annulation de commandes sur le 787 ne pouvait être attribuée aux retards de près de trois ans subis par le programme
... maintenant les resultats en exploitation commercial du B787 seront interessants a suivre
Re: Encore du retard pour le 787
Boeing acknowledges 787 to miss spec performance
SCOTTSDALE -- During his ISTAT presentation, I had a chance to ask Boeing Commercial Airplanes CEO Jim Albaugh about the performance of the 787, which is readying to enter service with Japan's All Nippon Airways in the third quarter.
FlightBlogger: A question about the payload range performance of the 787. At what point are you going to be able to deliver a 787 that flies fully 8,000nm, fully fueled and with full payload?
Jim Albaugh: Well right now if you look at the airplanes that we're going to deliver we meet the missions that our customers have put in place for us to meet. Now, I'll be the first to admit that we're not going to meet the spec, but I think we'll be able to meet what our guarantees are. And you got to remember, the first airplanes are going to be a little heavy, there are a lot of things that we're going to do to clean the airplane up, a lot of things to do with the engine manufacturers, and I feel pretty comfortable that over time we'll be able to get to the numbers that you just quoted. When that date's going to be, I can't tell you.
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SCOTTSDALE -- During his ISTAT presentation, I had a chance to ask Boeing Commercial Airplanes CEO Jim Albaugh about the performance of the 787, which is readying to enter service with Japan's All Nippon Airways in the third quarter.
FlightBlogger: A question about the payload range performance of the 787. At what point are you going to be able to deliver a 787 that flies fully 8,000nm, fully fueled and with full payload?
Jim Albaugh: Well right now if you look at the airplanes that we're going to deliver we meet the missions that our customers have put in place for us to meet. Now, I'll be the first to admit that we're not going to meet the spec, but I think we'll be able to meet what our guarantees are. And you got to remember, the first airplanes are going to be a little heavy, there are a lot of things that we're going to do to clean the airplane up, a lot of things to do with the engine manufacturers, and I feel pretty comfortable that over time we'll be able to get to the numbers that you just quoted. When that date's going to be, I can't tell you.
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Boeing: le premier 787 serait livré à ANA en juillet
Le constructeur américain Boeing aurait avancé la date de livraison de son premier 787 Dreamliner au mois de juillet 2011, alors que la compagnie aérienne de lancement All Nippon Airways ne l’attendait pas avant septembre.
Même si la nouvelle n’a pas été officiellement confirmée par Boeing, la nouvelle date de fin juillet annoncée par le site Flightglobal serait une bonne nouvelle pour le programme 787, qui a pris trois ans de retard au point de perdre quelques commandes au passage. La compagnie japonaise ANA sera servie la première (elle l’attendait officieusement en septembre), une vingtaine d’appareils devant ensuite être livrés en 2011 à Japan Airlines, Air India et China Southern Airlines. Viendront ensuite – dans le désordre – LAN Airlines (LAN Chile), Aeromexico, Royal Air Maroc et le groupe United Airlines – Continental Airlines.
La version 787-8 commandées par All Nippon Airways devrait être configurée en deux classes, affaires et économies, et ne serait utilisée que pour des vols courts ou moyen-courriers. La version suivante, 787-9, sera lancée par Air New Zealand et sera équipée de moteurs plus puissants permettant un rayon d’action plus long et un poids plus important décollage – indispensables pour les vols transpacifiques.
En attendant, Boeing continue son programme d’essais, se concentrant sur les programmes F&R (fonctionnalités et fiabilité) et ETOPS (opérations étendues).
Le constructeur américain Boeing aurait avancé la date de livraison de son premier 787 Dreamliner au mois de juillet 2011, alors que la compagnie aérienne de lancement All Nippon Airways ne l’attendait pas avant septembre.
Même si la nouvelle n’a pas été officiellement confirmée par Boeing, la nouvelle date de fin juillet annoncée par le site Flightglobal serait une bonne nouvelle pour le programme 787, qui a pris trois ans de retard au point de perdre quelques commandes au passage. La compagnie japonaise ANA sera servie la première (elle l’attendait officieusement en septembre), une vingtaine d’appareils devant ensuite être livrés en 2011 à Japan Airlines, Air India et China Southern Airlines. Viendront ensuite – dans le désordre – LAN Airlines (LAN Chile), Aeromexico, Royal Air Maroc et le groupe United Airlines – Continental Airlines.
La version 787-8 commandées par All Nippon Airways devrait être configurée en deux classes, affaires et économies, et ne serait utilisée que pour des vols courts ou moyen-courriers. La version suivante, 787-9, sera lancée par Air New Zealand et sera équipée de moteurs plus puissants permettant un rayon d’action plus long et un poids plus important décollage – indispensables pour les vols transpacifiques.
En attendant, Boeing continue son programme d’essais, se concentrant sur les programmes F&R (fonctionnalités et fiabilité) et ETOPS (opérations étendues).
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le 1er B787 destiné a ANA a été convoyé au Japon en ce debut juillet (le2/3) sous les yeux des cameras bien surAVION a écrit :Boeing: le premier 787 serait livré à ANA en juillet.
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Par contre petite nuance entre convoyé et livré il n'y a pas eu avant de transfert de propriété Boeing/ANA il reste à Boeing "stationné au Japon" n'etant toujours pas formelement certifié
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En fait un beau moment de com. Boeing, tout est presenté comme "une livraison ", film de l'arrivée, photos avec les pompiers et leurs lances a eau ...
... mais la machine retournerait aux USA la semaine prochaine et la livraison, pour de vrai, a ANA prevue aout/septembre
... mais la machine retournerait aux USA la semaine prochaine et la livraison, pour de vrai, a ANA prevue aout/septembre
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... visiblement un nouveau changement, au moins dans les termes ... livraisona ANA n'est plus annoncée pour "pour aout/septembre" mais "later this year"Flyzen a écrit :... et la livraison, pour de vrai, a ANA prevue aout/septembre
plusieurs sources dont l'habituel flightglobal
... mm des mechants qui evoque pas avant 2012 mais la surement des "anti Boeing"
Re: Encore du retard pour le 787
Another Time-Out in 787 Production
Temporary challenges” in a “few production areas in the supply chain” have prompted Boeing to initiate a month-long hold on deliveries from major suppliers to the 787’s primary final assembly line. The move comes as the company takes the first steps to use a second line so it can ramp up production rates from the current two per month to 10 by the end of 2013.
The stoppage is the company’s fifth since the 787 fell more than three years behind schedule. But it will not affect the delivery of the first Boeing 787-8 to All Nippon Airways (ANA) set for August or September nor the initial delivery of 12-20 aircraft this year, the company says. More than 30 787-8s have left the production line and are awaiting completion of the certification process. So by pure numbers, meeting this year’s delivery targets should not be a problem. However, part of this month’s hold is to incorporate change orders—production retrofits to reflect design alterations dictated by flight testing. The manufacturer is leasing spare hangar space to keep up with the extra work (AW&ST June 20, p. 86).
Besides boosting 787 production rates, Boeing is pushing the manufacturing pace in its 737, 747-8 and 777 programs. It predicts a 40% rate boost across all its programs in the next three years. Whether the latest 787 hold will cast a shadow over its other programs is anticipated to be a topic of CEO/Chairman James McNerney’s second-quarter earnings call on July 27. He is also expected to state the 2012 delivery goals for the 787 at that time.
Industry watchers are taking the hold in stride. For instance, RBC Capital Markets analyst Robert Stallard calls it “no big deal” since it will affect only two airplanes.
Reaching the 10-per-month goal will require Boeing’s supply chain to answer demand for seven per month at the prime final assembly line in Everett, Wash., and three per month at the second final assembly line that is just getting under way in North Charleston, S.C.
That facility received its first fuselage assembly—a horizontal stabilizer from Alenia Aeronautica—in late June. Since then it has taken delivery of a tail cone from Korean Air’s Aerospace Div. and wings, which in completed form entail shipments from Mitsubishi, Kawasaki, Korean Air, Spirit AeroSystems and Boeing de Havilland in Australia. Although most work was completed at the supplier level on those assemblies, preparations are still needed on the final assembly line floor.
The rest of the assemblies for the first aircraft—Line 46—are set to arrive by the end of August. Boeing does not break down employment by factory function, but 1,000 workers have been added in North Charleston over the past year, specifically to prepare for the line’s opening. There are now 4,000 workers at the site, which also manufactures the 787’s aft fuselage and integrates its mid-cabin sections.
As it wrestled with supplier integration issues last year, Boeing imposed four other production holds, but they were different. This time, the issue is shortages of spot parts affecting some areas in the supply chain, coupled with the need to incorporate engineering changes that flowed out of the 787’s flight-test program, says company spokesman Scott Lefeber.
The last hold, spanning November-December, was implemented so suppliers could get back on track rather than pass along out-of-sequence work to the final assembly line. Instituting temporary holds so the whole supplier network can catch up with itself “is a proven approach,” says Lefeber.
While this month’s hold is not centered on costly travel work, it does raise questions about how well the supplier network will be able to cope with the build-up to 10 aircraft per month if parts shortages are already severe enough at the current two-per-month rate to retard shipments for awhile.
The hold is to last roughly 20 days, equivalent to a normal five-day workweek. So, production is not likely to resume until August.
The four production stations in Everett’s 40-26 bay are filled with aircraft Lines 40, 41, 42 and 43. A full set of airframe assemblies for Line 44 are in the zero position for off-line buildup. When deliveries resume, they will feed Line 45.
Lefeber says not all of the seven major-structures assembly makers are equally affected by the part shortages or engineering changes. He declined to name those that are.
The first delivery aircraft to ANA, ZA102, has begun final function and reliability tests in the FAA’s certification process in anticipation of delivery to Tokyo in August or September.
Meanwhile, pilots and technical crews from ANA and Boeing have concluded fitness checks in Japan using the second flight-test aircraft, ZA002.
Temporary challenges” in a “few production areas in the supply chain” have prompted Boeing to initiate a month-long hold on deliveries from major suppliers to the 787’s primary final assembly line. The move comes as the company takes the first steps to use a second line so it can ramp up production rates from the current two per month to 10 by the end of 2013.
The stoppage is the company’s fifth since the 787 fell more than three years behind schedule. But it will not affect the delivery of the first Boeing 787-8 to All Nippon Airways (ANA) set for August or September nor the initial delivery of 12-20 aircraft this year, the company says. More than 30 787-8s have left the production line and are awaiting completion of the certification process. So by pure numbers, meeting this year’s delivery targets should not be a problem. However, part of this month’s hold is to incorporate change orders—production retrofits to reflect design alterations dictated by flight testing. The manufacturer is leasing spare hangar space to keep up with the extra work (AW&ST June 20, p. 86).
Besides boosting 787 production rates, Boeing is pushing the manufacturing pace in its 737, 747-8 and 777 programs. It predicts a 40% rate boost across all its programs in the next three years. Whether the latest 787 hold will cast a shadow over its other programs is anticipated to be a topic of CEO/Chairman James McNerney’s second-quarter earnings call on July 27. He is also expected to state the 2012 delivery goals for the 787 at that time.
Industry watchers are taking the hold in stride. For instance, RBC Capital Markets analyst Robert Stallard calls it “no big deal” since it will affect only two airplanes.
Reaching the 10-per-month goal will require Boeing’s supply chain to answer demand for seven per month at the prime final assembly line in Everett, Wash., and three per month at the second final assembly line that is just getting under way in North Charleston, S.C.
That facility received its first fuselage assembly—a horizontal stabilizer from Alenia Aeronautica—in late June. Since then it has taken delivery of a tail cone from Korean Air’s Aerospace Div. and wings, which in completed form entail shipments from Mitsubishi, Kawasaki, Korean Air, Spirit AeroSystems and Boeing de Havilland in Australia. Although most work was completed at the supplier level on those assemblies, preparations are still needed on the final assembly line floor.
The rest of the assemblies for the first aircraft—Line 46—are set to arrive by the end of August. Boeing does not break down employment by factory function, but 1,000 workers have been added in North Charleston over the past year, specifically to prepare for the line’s opening. There are now 4,000 workers at the site, which also manufactures the 787’s aft fuselage and integrates its mid-cabin sections.
As it wrestled with supplier integration issues last year, Boeing imposed four other production holds, but they were different. This time, the issue is shortages of spot parts affecting some areas in the supply chain, coupled with the need to incorporate engineering changes that flowed out of the 787’s flight-test program, says company spokesman Scott Lefeber.
The last hold, spanning November-December, was implemented so suppliers could get back on track rather than pass along out-of-sequence work to the final assembly line. Instituting temporary holds so the whole supplier network can catch up with itself “is a proven approach,” says Lefeber.
While this month’s hold is not centered on costly travel work, it does raise questions about how well the supplier network will be able to cope with the build-up to 10 aircraft per month if parts shortages are already severe enough at the current two-per-month rate to retard shipments for awhile.
The hold is to last roughly 20 days, equivalent to a normal five-day workweek. So, production is not likely to resume until August.
The four production stations in Everett’s 40-26 bay are filled with aircraft Lines 40, 41, 42 and 43. A full set of airframe assemblies for Line 44 are in the zero position for off-line buildup. When deliveries resume, they will feed Line 45.
Lefeber says not all of the seven major-structures assembly makers are equally affected by the part shortages or engineering changes. He declined to name those that are.
The first delivery aircraft to ANA, ZA102, has begun final function and reliability tests in the FAA’s certification process in anticipation of delivery to Tokyo in August or September.
Meanwhile, pilots and technical crews from ANA and Boeing have concluded fitness checks in Japan using the second flight-test aircraft, ZA002.
Re: Encore du retard pour le 787
Le 787 couleur Air India a déclaré une emergency lors d'un vol test
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Que de gamelle pour cet avion !
... en plus on ne sait plus discerner le pbl mineur ... ce qui semble etre le cas
... ou majeur ... se déclarer en emergency ne se fait pas a la légère
... en plus on ne sait plus discerner le pbl mineur ... ce qui semble etre le cas
... ou majeur ... se déclarer en emergency ne se fait pas a la légère
Re: Encore du retard pour le 787
Sensor failure cuts short Air India's first 787 B-1 flight
Air India's first 787 made its maiden flight 31 July, though the sortie was cut short by a declared emergency traced to a failed sensor.
Operating as Boeing 233, Airplane 29, wearing Air India's colours, departed Paine Field at Boeing's Everett, Washington facility at 12:46 local time on a standard B-1 production flight for an initial checkout of the aircraft's systems.
Dubbed ZA233, the aircraft took off with an estimated 5h of fuel aboard and four crew, according to recorded air traffic communications (via Matt Cawby).
The flight marked only the third production 787 to fly to date, with the first, Airplane Nine, ZA102, flying in January, followed in March by Airplane 23, ZA177, for Japan Airlines.
Minutes after departure, the aircraft reported that it was "working a little bit of a flap problem and we might be returning" to Everett before formally declaring an emergency at 12:55, requesting a return to Paine Field, citing an issue with its flight controls.
Boeing says the aircraft "performed a safe landing" at 13:12 local time and the issue was traced to a failed sensor. The airframer declined to offer any additional information on the type of the sensor or nature of the flight control issue.
The aircraft is expected to be eventually registered as VT-AND, but has been assigned a temporary US registration of N1006N.
The aircraft, which is powered by two General Electric GEnx-1B engines, is expected to be ferried to San Antonio, Texas where Boeing has established a refurbishment and change incorporation facility for both 787s and 747-8s. Air India'a first will join ZA177, which has been in Texas since March.
The airframer expects initial type certification of the 787 with Rolls-Royce Package A Trent 1000 engines in late August, with General Electric certification to come later in the fourth quarter.
First delivery to Air India is slated for sometime late in the fourth quarter.
Air India's first 787 made its maiden flight 31 July, though the sortie was cut short by a declared emergency traced to a failed sensor.
Operating as Boeing 233, Airplane 29, wearing Air India's colours, departed Paine Field at Boeing's Everett, Washington facility at 12:46 local time on a standard B-1 production flight for an initial checkout of the aircraft's systems.
Dubbed ZA233, the aircraft took off with an estimated 5h of fuel aboard and four crew, according to recorded air traffic communications (via Matt Cawby).
The flight marked only the third production 787 to fly to date, with the first, Airplane Nine, ZA102, flying in January, followed in March by Airplane 23, ZA177, for Japan Airlines.
Minutes after departure, the aircraft reported that it was "working a little bit of a flap problem and we might be returning" to Everett before formally declaring an emergency at 12:55, requesting a return to Paine Field, citing an issue with its flight controls.
Boeing says the aircraft "performed a safe landing" at 13:12 local time and the issue was traced to a failed sensor. The airframer declined to offer any additional information on the type of the sensor or nature of the flight control issue.
The aircraft is expected to be eventually registered as VT-AND, but has been assigned a temporary US registration of N1006N.
The aircraft, which is powered by two General Electric GEnx-1B engines, is expected to be ferried to San Antonio, Texas where Boeing has established a refurbishment and change incorporation facility for both 787s and 747-8s. Air India'a first will join ZA177, which has been in Texas since March.
The airframer expects initial type certification of the 787 with Rolls-Royce Package A Trent 1000 engines in late August, with General Electric certification to come later in the fourth quarter.
First delivery to Air India is slated for sometime late in the fourth quarter.
Re: Encore du retard pour le 787
Boeing recule la livraison de la plus grosse version du 787
NEW YORK, 26 oct 2011 (AFP)
Le constructeur aéronautique américain Boeing a reculé la date de la première livraison de la version allongée de son nouvel avion 787 Dreamliner, indiquent mercredi des documents déposés auprès de l'autorité américaine des marchés financiers (SEC).
NEW YORK, 26 oct 2011 (AFP)
Le constructeur aéronautique américain Boeing a reculé la date de la première livraison de la version allongée de son nouvel avion 787 Dreamliner, indiquent mercredi des documents déposés auprès de l'autorité américaine des marchés financiers (SEC).
Re: Encore du retard pour le 787
Boeing change de dirigeant pour son 787 plombé par les problèmes techniques
NEW YORK, 24 fév 2012 (AFP)
Le constructeur aéronautique américain Boeing a annoncé vendredi qu'il allait remplacer le directeur du programme 787, son nouveau long courrier plombé depuis son lancement par les problèmes techniques et les retards.
Eah bon, pas déja fait
NEW YORK, 24 fév 2012 (AFP)
Le constructeur aéronautique américain Boeing a annoncé vendredi qu'il allait remplacer le directeur du programme 787, son nouveau long courrier plombé depuis son lancement par les problèmes techniques et les retards.
Eah bon, pas déja fait