Qantas - discussion générale
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Avec des previsions mauvaises, licenciementss reports livraions A380 et B737...
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... _4kg_TLEaA
On voit que la crise actuelle qui est, plus qu'économique, surtout fianciere touche aussi, et fortement, les grandes Cies, en fait touche celles qui ont de gros besoins de $$$
a lire
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... _4kg_TLEaA
On voit que la crise actuelle qui est, plus qu'économique, surtout fianciere touche aussi, et fortement, les grandes Cies, en fait touche celles qui ont de gros besoins de $$$
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La compagnie a annoncé qu'elle allait augmenter ses capacités de 10% sur ses vols intérieurs, en raison d'une demande croissante.
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Et hop Qantas en daily sur Johannesburg, à ce la s'ajoute un petit accord de code share avec la SAA. Pas trop une surprise
La route Afrique du Sud- Australie est très lucrative. V Australia a tenté de tenir tête à ces 2 compagnies, mais elle a décidé d'arrêter. Ces dernières années, bcp de pax transitaient par DXB, SIN ou HKG.
D'ailleurs je me demande si Air Austral arrive à attirer des pax en provenance ou à destionation de l'Afs ou de l'Australie, sur sa ligne RUN-SYD??
http://www.aviationrecord.com/Cargo/tab ... frica.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
La route Afrique du Sud- Australie est très lucrative. V Australia a tenté de tenir tête à ces 2 compagnies, mais elle a décidé d'arrêter. Ces dernières années, bcp de pax transitaient par DXB, SIN ou HKG.
D'ailleurs je me demande si Air Austral arrive à attirer des pax en provenance ou à destionation de l'Afs ou de l'Australie, sur sa ligne RUN-SYD??
http://www.aviationrecord.com/Cargo/tab ... frica.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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A380 flights to Los Angeles unprofitable with Trent 900s: Qantas
Qantas Airways will not be able to operate any of its Airbus A380s profitably on the Sydney-Los Angeles route if it uses its existing Rolls-Royce Trent 900 powerplants, says the carrier in a statement of claim against the engine manufacturer.
The carrier, which filed the claim in the Federal Court of Australia on 2 December, says each A380 would be able to carry only 80 passengers, instead of 450, on the route due to thrust limitations on the engines.
Qantas filed the claim almost a month after one of its A380s experienced an uncontained engine failure on 4 November, resulting in an emergency landing at Singapore. The court has granted the carrier an injunction, which allows it to pursue legal action against Rolls-Royce if a commercial settlement is not possible.
In its statement, Qantas alleges that it was advised by Rolls-Royce to not use any "mod B" or "mod C" Trent 900 engines if they had been operated more than 75 times at the maximum thrust level of 72,000lb.
Rolls-Royce, which recommended measures to "minimise the severity of engine operation", allegedly told the carrier that earlier "mod A" engines should not be utilised at all.
To keep to the thrust limitations, the carrier would have to ensure that its A380 aircraft carries a payload of no more than 30,000 kg if departing Los Angeles International Airport on runway 25L, or 20,000kg if departing the shorter 24L runway.
This would make it "uncommercial" for Qantas to operate its Trent 900 powered A380s on the route as "operation at that reduced level involves a reduction in carrying capacity such that typically only 80 passengers will be able to be transported", says the airline.
Before the 4 November incident prompted a grounding of Qantas' A380 fleet, a typical A380 flight operating from Los Angeles to Sydney or Melbourne carried up to 450 passengers and freight, it adds.
Qantas alleges that Rolls-Royce may have been "misleading or deceptive" in its representations when it proposed its Trent 900 powerplant to the carrier.
The airline says that the engine manufacturer had given the representation that "the A380 aircraft operated by Qantas could, if powered by Trent 900 engines, be operated regularly and reliably on Qantas' existing international routes (including the LAX routes) with a profitable payload and without the engines having to be replaced at any point before the end of the projected useful engine life".
Qantas says that in Rolls-Royce's engine manuals for the Trent 900, the "mod A" engine was listed as having a life cycle of 2000 flight cycles, and the "mod B" 14,800 flight cycles. The "mod C" variant was believed to have an unlimited life cycle, says the carrier.
Alleging that Rolls-Royce was negligent in its duties, the carrier says the engine manufacturer "ought to have known and understood that the most important aspect of the A380 aircraft economics was the payload that the A380 aircraft would be able to carry on the LAX routes".
When contacted for comment, a Rolls-Royce spokeswoman says: "We continue to work closely with Qantas on operational and commercial matters but it would be inappropriate to comment further at this stage."
Qantas' spokesman says there is "no timeframe for when Rolls-Royce might provide further advice" regarding flights to Los Angeles. "We are keen to resume LAX flying, but will only do so once we are absolutely confident that it is safe to do so. Further information from Rolls-Royce will obviously be critical to that process," he adds.
Qantas Airways will not be able to operate any of its Airbus A380s profitably on the Sydney-Los Angeles route if it uses its existing Rolls-Royce Trent 900 powerplants, says the carrier in a statement of claim against the engine manufacturer.
The carrier, which filed the claim in the Federal Court of Australia on 2 December, says each A380 would be able to carry only 80 passengers, instead of 450, on the route due to thrust limitations on the engines.
Qantas filed the claim almost a month after one of its A380s experienced an uncontained engine failure on 4 November, resulting in an emergency landing at Singapore. The court has granted the carrier an injunction, which allows it to pursue legal action against Rolls-Royce if a commercial settlement is not possible.
In its statement, Qantas alleges that it was advised by Rolls-Royce to not use any "mod B" or "mod C" Trent 900 engines if they had been operated more than 75 times at the maximum thrust level of 72,000lb.
Rolls-Royce, which recommended measures to "minimise the severity of engine operation", allegedly told the carrier that earlier "mod A" engines should not be utilised at all.
To keep to the thrust limitations, the carrier would have to ensure that its A380 aircraft carries a payload of no more than 30,000 kg if departing Los Angeles International Airport on runway 25L, or 20,000kg if departing the shorter 24L runway.
This would make it "uncommercial" for Qantas to operate its Trent 900 powered A380s on the route as "operation at that reduced level involves a reduction in carrying capacity such that typically only 80 passengers will be able to be transported", says the airline.
Before the 4 November incident prompted a grounding of Qantas' A380 fleet, a typical A380 flight operating from Los Angeles to Sydney or Melbourne carried up to 450 passengers and freight, it adds.
Qantas alleges that Rolls-Royce may have been "misleading or deceptive" in its representations when it proposed its Trent 900 powerplant to the carrier.
The airline says that the engine manufacturer had given the representation that "the A380 aircraft operated by Qantas could, if powered by Trent 900 engines, be operated regularly and reliably on Qantas' existing international routes (including the LAX routes) with a profitable payload and without the engines having to be replaced at any point before the end of the projected useful engine life".
Qantas says that in Rolls-Royce's engine manuals for the Trent 900, the "mod A" engine was listed as having a life cycle of 2000 flight cycles, and the "mod B" 14,800 flight cycles. The "mod C" variant was believed to have an unlimited life cycle, says the carrier.
Alleging that Rolls-Royce was negligent in its duties, the carrier says the engine manufacturer "ought to have known and understood that the most important aspect of the A380 aircraft economics was the payload that the A380 aircraft would be able to carry on the LAX routes".
When contacted for comment, a Rolls-Royce spokeswoman says: "We continue to work closely with Qantas on operational and commercial matters but it would be inappropriate to comment further at this stage."
Qantas' spokesman says there is "no timeframe for when Rolls-Royce might provide further advice" regarding flights to Los Angeles. "We are keen to resume LAX flying, but will only do so once we are absolutely confident that it is safe to do so. Further information from Rolls-Royce will obviously be critical to that process," he adds.
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La série noire continue pour la compagnie. Après la dépressurisation de la cabine d'un 737 hier (cf : http://www.capaero.fr/actualites/index. ... search=278), un 747 a dû revenir se poser à Bangkok aujourd'hui suite à un problème sur un des réacteurs qui consommait du carburant plus vite que la normale. Que se passe-t-il, problèmes systémiques de maintenance ?
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Un hub en prévision sur PVG (Shangai) et CDG en ligne de mire.....si....
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Ca serait une excellente nouvelle ! 

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oui mais pas pour SIN
... en fait c'est un hub sans en etre un (au sens ou on l'utilise regulièrement) sans machines basées un peu comme le serpent de mer Air India vu dans toute l'Europe
... apres quid des droits PVG / Europe ?

... en fait c'est un hub sans en etre un (au sens ou on l'utilise regulièrement) sans machines basées un peu comme le serpent de mer Air India vu dans toute l'Europe
... apres quid des droits PVG / Europe ?
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Et quid du CDG-SIN d'Air France qui draine pas mal de connecting sur l'Australie en code share avec Qantas justement...
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Qantas a fermé sa ligne Sydney-San Francisco : http://www.capaero.fr/actualites/qantas ... tu502.html
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Une filiale à SIN....en réflexion
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Au regard des battons dans les roues qu'ont mis les australiens à Singapore Airlines pour l'empêcher de trop se développer sur l'Australie (à une époque elle voulait faire du transpacifique en concurrence avec Qantas), je vois mal le gouvernement singapourien laisser le champ libre à une filiale premium de Qantas...
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Que faisait donc QF de beau en 1954/55 ? Le Retrorid'Air est parti remonter le temps, billet et boarding pass en main .....
QEA (QANTAS Empire Airways)
1 weekly Sydney – Darwin – Jakarta – Singapore* – Colombo – Bombay – Karachi – Cairo – Rome – London vv (C)
1 weekly Sydney – Darwin – Jakarta – Singapore* – Bangkok – Calcutta – Karachi – Cairo – Rome – London vv (C)
1 weekly Sydney – Darwin – Jakarta – Singapore* – Bangkok – Calcutta – Karachi – Beirut – Rome – Frankfurt – London vv (SC)
2 weekly Sydney – Nandi – Canton Island – Honolulu – San Francisco vv (SC)
1 weekly Sydney – Nandi – Canton Island – Honolulu – San Francisco^ – Vancouver vv (SC)
1 weekly Sydney – Melbourne – Perth – Cocos Island – Mauritius* – Johannesburg vv (C; bi-weekly service)
1 weekly Sydney – Brisbane – Noumea – Vila – Espiritu Santo vv (S)
1 weekly Noumea – Suva vv (S; bi-weekly service)
1 weekly Sydney – Cloncurry+ – Darwin – Manila – Iwakuni – Tokyo vv (C)
1 weekly Sydney – Cloncurry+ – Darwin – Labuan** – Hong Kong** – Iwakuni – Tokyo vv (DC4; Inbound Iwakuni – Hong Kong sector includes night stop in Manila as tech stop)
5 weekly Sydney – Port Moresby – Lae vv (DC4)
1 weekly Sydney – Brisbane – Cairns – Port Moresby** – Samarai – Esa’Ala – Rabaul vv (S)
1 weekly Lae – Bulolo – Wau vv (DC3)
* Night-stop both direction
** Night-stop on outbound flight
^ Night-stop on inbound flight
+ Optional Technical Stop
(C) Constellation Aircraft
(DC3) DC3
(DC4) DC4
(S) Sardingham Flying Boat
(SC) Super Constellation Aircraft
QEA (QANTAS Empire Airways)
1 weekly Sydney – Darwin – Jakarta – Singapore* – Colombo – Bombay – Karachi – Cairo – Rome – London vv (C)
1 weekly Sydney – Darwin – Jakarta – Singapore* – Bangkok – Calcutta – Karachi – Cairo – Rome – London vv (C)
1 weekly Sydney – Darwin – Jakarta – Singapore* – Bangkok – Calcutta – Karachi – Beirut – Rome – Frankfurt – London vv (SC)
2 weekly Sydney – Nandi – Canton Island – Honolulu – San Francisco vv (SC)
1 weekly Sydney – Nandi – Canton Island – Honolulu – San Francisco^ – Vancouver vv (SC)
1 weekly Sydney – Melbourne – Perth – Cocos Island – Mauritius* – Johannesburg vv (C; bi-weekly service)
1 weekly Sydney – Brisbane – Noumea – Vila – Espiritu Santo vv (S)
1 weekly Noumea – Suva vv (S; bi-weekly service)
1 weekly Sydney – Cloncurry+ – Darwin – Manila – Iwakuni – Tokyo vv (C)
1 weekly Sydney – Cloncurry+ – Darwin – Labuan** – Hong Kong** – Iwakuni – Tokyo vv (DC4; Inbound Iwakuni – Hong Kong sector includes night stop in Manila as tech stop)
5 weekly Sydney – Port Moresby – Lae vv (DC4)
1 weekly Sydney – Brisbane – Cairns – Port Moresby** – Samarai – Esa’Ala – Rabaul vv (S)
1 weekly Lae – Bulolo – Wau vv (DC3)
* Night-stop both direction
** Night-stop on outbound flight
^ Night-stop on inbound flight
+ Optional Technical Stop
(C) Constellation Aircraft
(DC3) DC3
(DC4) DC4
(S) Sardingham Flying Boat
(SC) Super Constellation Aircraft
Re: Qantas - discussion générale
Qantas Group passe commande pour 32 A320 + 78 A320neo.
Report de livraison de 6 A380 à 2019.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-delays-a ... rticleleft" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Report de livraison de 6 A380 à 2019.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-delays-a ... rticleleft" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Boeing a vraiment du soucis à se faire....Speedbird a écrit :Qantas Group passe commande pour 32 A320 + 78 A320neo.
Report de livraison de 6 A380 à 2019.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-delays-a ... rticleleft" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bravo Airbus
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Responsable Boeing muté au tri bagages égarés chez ryanair ... normal ils ont des B738AVION a écrit :Boieng a vraiment du soucis à se faire....Speedbird a écrit :Qantas Group passe commande pour 32 A320 + 78 A320neo.
Report de livraison de 6 A380 à 2019.
Bravo Airbus






Re: Qantas - discussion générale
Trè très bon la mutation au tri bagage....Flyzen a écrit : Responsable Boeing muté au tri bagages égarés chez ryanair ... normal ils ont des B738![]()
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attendons le coup de massue final une cde de A320/321 NEO pour Southwest
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Re: Qantas - discussion générale
Ça en fait de toutes façons moins qu'en France...sxbrf a écrit :Australie: et une nouvelle grève, une!
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Qantas annule tous ses vols nationaux et internationaux à partir de lundi et met son personnel en lock-out.
http://www.smh.com.au/travel/qantas-gro ... z1c9NP3p3U" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.smh.com.au/travel/qantas-gro ... z1c9NP3p3U" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Qantas - discussion générale
... decision aussi radicale et claire en français
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