BMI - discussion générale
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Déja a 30 % dans le capial de BMI, LH va devenir actionnaire majoritaire en prenant 50 % de plus
http://www.romandie.com/ats/news/081029" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... orl9b6.asp
BMI n'a plus rien d'anglais maintenanat avec 80 % LH et 20% SAS
Par contre aucune info sur le devenir de BMIBaby la division "low cost " de BMI, il y a fort a parier qu'il y a de la reprise dans l'air je ne vois pas LH garder ce trafic !
http://www.romandie.com/ats/news/081029" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... orl9b6.asp
BMI n'a plus rien d'anglais maintenanat avec 80 % LH et 20% SAS
Par contre aucune info sur le devenir de BMIBaby la division "low cost " de BMI, il y a fort a parier qu'il y a de la reprise dans l'air je ne vois pas LH garder ce trafic !
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Re: BMI va passez sous controle Lufthansa
Il me semble que Lufthansa commence a rependre de plus en plus "sa toile" sur l'Europe, et pendant ce temps-là, AF ne fait rien...enfin le groupe parle de lui en s'affichant pour racheter des parts de compagnies, puis après rien.
Re: BMI va passez sous controle Lufthansa
Hello!
Il semblerait que virgin serait interressé a faire ménage a trois!
Selon les sites allemand!
Ciao
Il semblerait que virgin serait interressé a faire ménage a trois!
Selon les sites allemand!
Ciao
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Re: BMI va passez sous controle Lufthansa
.... et sites anglaisLX-46 a écrit :Hello!
Il semblerait que virgin serait interressé a faire ménage a trois!Selon les sites allemand!...
... et bmibaby chercherait papa/maman
Michel
Re: BMI va passez sous controle Lufthansa
.... et, bien sur les sites FRANçAIS.....
ciao
ciao
Re: BMI
Lufthansa détient finalement 100% de Bmi après le rachat des parts de SAS (20%).
Alors maintenant que doit faire LH ? ………12 offres ont été reçues semble-t-il, forcément détenir 11,5% des slots Bmi à LHR, ça aiguise les appétits!
Lire ci-dessous un article encore très intéressant de CAPA qui soulève de nombreux points, stratégiques et financiers notamment.
http://www.centreforaviation.com/news/2 ... ders/page1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Alors maintenant que doit faire LH ? ………12 offres ont été reçues semble-t-il, forcément détenir 11,5% des slots Bmi à LHR, ça aiguise les appétits!
Lire ci-dessous un article encore très intéressant de CAPA qui soulève de nombreux points, stratégiques et financiers notamment.
http://www.centreforaviation.com/news/2 ... ders/page1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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BMI menacé de cessation d'activité ?
La compagnie, filiale de Lufthansa, pourrait s'arrêter de voler, selon des documents internes révélés par le Times.
BMI sur la selette ? Un article du Times révèle qu'en raison de la crise, la filiale de Lufthansa pourrait cesser son activité, si l'on en croit les documents internes que s'est procuré le quotidien anglais. Ceux-ci indiquent que la compagnie aurait un besoin urgent de 210 ME d'ici un an. Mais Lufthansa n'en proposerait que 95. Le couteau sous la gorge, BMI serait prête à revendre ses slots pour trouver la différence. Mais sera-ce suffisant ? Le Times indique que la compagnie a essuyé l'an dernier des pertes avant impôt de 155,6 millions de livres, soit 50 % de plus que prévu. Bien que la direction ait réagi en indiquant que son avenir n'était pas menacé, elle a reconnu "l'existence d'incertitudes importantes, qui jettent un doute significatif sur la capacité de l'entreprise à poursuivre ses activités".
La compagnie, filiale de Lufthansa, pourrait s'arrêter de voler, selon des documents internes révélés par le Times.
BMI sur la selette ? Un article du Times révèle qu'en raison de la crise, la filiale de Lufthansa pourrait cesser son activité, si l'on en croit les documents internes que s'est procuré le quotidien anglais. Ceux-ci indiquent que la compagnie aurait un besoin urgent de 210 ME d'ici un an. Mais Lufthansa n'en proposerait que 95. Le couteau sous la gorge, BMI serait prête à revendre ses slots pour trouver la différence. Mais sera-ce suffisant ? Le Times indique que la compagnie a essuyé l'an dernier des pertes avant impôt de 155,6 millions de livres, soit 50 % de plus que prévu. Bien que la direction ait réagi en indiquant que son avenir n'était pas menacé, elle a reconnu "l'existence d'incertitudes importantes, qui jettent un doute significatif sur la capacité de l'entreprise à poursuivre ses activités".
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... et baby ? quel pourrait etre son sort ?AVION a écrit :BMI menacé de cessation d'activité ?
La compagnie, filiale de Lufthansa, pourrait s'arrêter de voler, selon des documents internes révélés par le Times.
Michel
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BMI ... ça restructure
A lire (entre autre ... car pas mal de com sur le sujet)
http://www.tourmag.com/BMI-taille-dans- ... 35333.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Il n'y a pas de grande surprise dans cette annonce, on va dire "politique de groupe"
http://www.tourmag.com/BMI-taille-dans- ... 35333.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Il n'y a pas de grande surprise dans cette annonce, on va dire "politique de groupe"
Michel
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Airline bmi is to launch a daily service from London to the Libyan capital, Tripoli, it has been announced.
The service, operated by an Airbus A319, will begin on December 1.
Wolfgang Prock-Schauer, chief executive of bmi, said: "The new route to Tripoli expands our existing services to and from cities of influence across Europe, the Middle East and Africa.
"Our business customers in particular will find the new, daily service gives them even more choice between the UK and Libya and offers convenient domestic and long haul connections via our Heathrow hub."
The service, operated by an Airbus A319, will begin on December 1.
Wolfgang Prock-Schauer, chief executive of bmi, said: "The new route to Tripoli expands our existing services to and from cities of influence across Europe, the Middle East and Africa.
"Our business customers in particular will find the new, daily service gives them even more choice between the UK and Libya and offers convenient domestic and long haul connections via our Heathrow hub."
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BMI retourne en Inde avec l'ouverture d' AMRITSAR à compter du 13 Octobre, à raison de 3 fréquences/hebdomadaires, en A330-200 avec escale à Almaty
London Heathrow – Almaty – Amritsar
BD991 LHR0955 – 2320ALA0010+1 – 0245+1ATQ 332 146
BD992 ATQ0410 – 0745ALA0845 – 1050LHR 332 257
et réorganise sa desserte de Bishkek
London Heathrow – Baku – Bishkek en A321
BD927 LHR1320 – 2245GYD2335 – 0435+1FRU 321 146
BD926 FRU0925 – 1055GYD1140 – 1405LHR 321 257
NB : BMI n'a pas les droits de traffic de 5ème liberté sur les tronçons Almaty-Amritsar, Baku-Bishkek & vv
London Heathrow – Almaty – Amritsar
BD991 LHR0955 – 2320ALA0010+1 – 0245+1ATQ 332 146
BD992 ATQ0410 – 0745ALA0845 – 1050LHR 332 257
et réorganise sa desserte de Bishkek
London Heathrow – Baku – Bishkek en A321
BD927 LHR1320 – 2245GYD2335 – 0435+1FRU 321 146
BD926 FRU0925 – 1055GYD1140 – 1405LHR 321 257
NB : BMI n'a pas les droits de traffic de 5ème liberté sur les tronçons Almaty-Amritsar, Baku-Bishkek & vv
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Revient tenter sa chance sur l'axe Londres-Nice en régulier
London Heathrow – Nice
till 29OCT11
BD195 LHR1730 – 2040NCE 320 D
BD196 NCE2130 – 2230LHR 320 D
Airbus A319 operates on Saturdays
eff 30OCT11
BD193 LHR0850 – 1145NCE 319 x7
BD195 LHR1750 – 2050NCE 319 D
BD194 NCE1300 – 1405LHR 319 45
BD194 NCE1310 – 1415LHR 319 x457
BD196 NCE2135 – 2235LHR 319 D
et ouvre Agadir, sa troisième escale au Royaume Chérifien, ce le 29/10
London Heathrow – Agadir
BD445 LHR0955 – 1355AGA 320 2
BD445 LHR1050 – 1450AGA 320 6
BD446 AGA1450 – 1845LHR 320 2
BD446 AGA1540 – 1935LHR 320 6
London Heathrow – Nice
till 29OCT11
BD195 LHR1730 – 2040NCE 320 D
BD196 NCE2130 – 2230LHR 320 D
Airbus A319 operates on Saturdays
eff 30OCT11
BD193 LHR0850 – 1145NCE 319 x7
BD195 LHR1750 – 2050NCE 319 D
BD194 NCE1300 – 1405LHR 319 45
BD194 NCE1310 – 1415LHR 319 x457
BD196 NCE2135 – 2235LHR 319 D
et ouvre Agadir, sa troisième escale au Royaume Chérifien, ce le 29/10
London Heathrow – Agadir
BD445 LHR0955 – 1355AGA 320 2
BD445 LHR1050 – 1450AGA 320 6
BD446 AGA1450 – 1845LHR 320 2
BD446 AGA1540 – 1935LHR 320 6
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Re: BMI - discussion générale
mais réduit la voilure sur Berlin/Tegel en passant de 5 à 3 fréquences quotidiennes à partir du 30/10
BD843 LHR0910 – 1200TXL 319 D
BD845 LHR1420 – 1710TXL 319 D
BD849 LHR1920 – 2210TXL 319 D
BD840 TXL0720 – 0825LHR 319 D
BD844 TXL1235 – 1340LHR 319 D
BD846 TXL1745 – 1845LHR 319 D
BD843 LHR0910 – 1200TXL 319 D
BD845 LHR1420 – 1710TXL 319 D
BD849 LHR1920 – 2210TXL 319 D
BD840 TXL0720 – 0825LHR 319 D
BD844 TXL1235 – 1340LHR 319 D
BD846 TXL1745 – 1845LHR 319 D
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Explication des créneaux libérés pour le NCEUY707 a écrit :mais réduit la voilure sur Berlin/Tegel en passant de 5 à 3 fréquences quotidiennes à partir du 30/10
BD843 LHR0910 – 1200TXL 319 D
BD845 LHR1420 – 1710TXL 319 D
BD849 LHR1920 – 2210TXL 319 D
BD840 TXL0720 – 0825LHR 319 D
BD844 TXL1235 – 1340LHR 319 D
BD846 TXL1745 – 1845LHR 319 D
Re: BMI - discussion générale
Lufthansa veut vendre BMI :
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Bonne soirée sebe
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Bonne soirée sebe
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Et bien, bonne chance à celui qui acceptera de reprendre BMI...
Son seul actif intéressant était les créneaux à LHR, et LH a déjà redistribué une partie de ceux-ci aux autres sociétés de son groupe. Et en 3 ans, LH n'est pas parvenu à redresser les finances de sa filiale britannique.
Une bonne solution dans le passé aurait été une fusion avec Virgin Atlantic. Maintenant, il est trop tard...
Son seul actif intéressant était les créneaux à LHR, et LH a déjà redistribué une partie de ceux-ci aux autres sociétés de son groupe. Et en 3 ans, LH n'est pas parvenu à redresser les finances de sa filiale britannique.
Une bonne solution dans le passé aurait été une fusion avec Virgin Atlantic. Maintenant, il est trop tard...
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BA ready to bid for BMI to expand at Heathrow
British Airways is ready to throw its hat into the ring in an auction for Lufthansa-owned BMI, the second biggest operator at Heathrow airport.
BA is interested in BMI, not as an airline but for its valuable take off and landing slots at overcrowded Heathrow.
Lufthansa has appointed investment banks led by Morgan Stanley to look at a sale or break-up of a lossmaking business it has failed to turn around since gaining control two years ago.
Willie Walsh, chief executive of International Airlines Group (IAG), the holding company for BA and Iberia of Spain, has made no secret of his interest in BMI, not as an airline but for its valuable take off and landing slots at overcrowded Heathrow.
BMI has 11pc of the airport's capacity – valued at £770m three years ago – while BA controls 42pc and Iberia 2pc.
Any addition would raise regulatory and monopoly issues but Mr Walsh feels BA is not out of step with other European airports where national carriers have the biggest stakes.
IAG is not interested in bidding for all of BMI – it is already considering an offer for TAP, the Portuguese airline – but is ready to negotiate. An IAG official said: "He has made it very clear we are interested in BMI in terms of slots. The ball is now in Lufthansa's court."
Lufthansa attempted to sound out the market's interest two years ago when it offered to open its books to potential buyers.
The German airline bought 20pc of BMI in 1999 when the carrier was estimated to be worth more than £450m but when Lufthansa took control in 2009 from the founder, Lord Bishop, the value had slumped to £96m.
BA and its parent are expected to face competition from ambitious Middle East airlines seeking a bigger presence at Heathrow.
Lufthansa has appointed Vagn Ove Sorensen, a former Scandanavian Airlines executive, as BMI chairman to handle the disposal or find buyers for BMI Baby and BMI Regional. BMI lost £105m in the first six months this year
British Airways is ready to throw its hat into the ring in an auction for Lufthansa-owned BMI, the second biggest operator at Heathrow airport.
BA is interested in BMI, not as an airline but for its valuable take off and landing slots at overcrowded Heathrow.
Lufthansa has appointed investment banks led by Morgan Stanley to look at a sale or break-up of a lossmaking business it has failed to turn around since gaining control two years ago.
Willie Walsh, chief executive of International Airlines Group (IAG), the holding company for BA and Iberia of Spain, has made no secret of his interest in BMI, not as an airline but for its valuable take off and landing slots at overcrowded Heathrow.
BMI has 11pc of the airport's capacity – valued at £770m three years ago – while BA controls 42pc and Iberia 2pc.
Any addition would raise regulatory and monopoly issues but Mr Walsh feels BA is not out of step with other European airports where national carriers have the biggest stakes.
IAG is not interested in bidding for all of BMI – it is already considering an offer for TAP, the Portuguese airline – but is ready to negotiate. An IAG official said: "He has made it very clear we are interested in BMI in terms of slots. The ball is now in Lufthansa's court."
Lufthansa attempted to sound out the market's interest two years ago when it offered to open its books to potential buyers.
The German airline bought 20pc of BMI in 1999 when the carrier was estimated to be worth more than £450m but when Lufthansa took control in 2009 from the founder, Lord Bishop, the value had slumped to £96m.
BA and its parent are expected to face competition from ambitious Middle East airlines seeking a bigger presence at Heathrow.
Lufthansa has appointed Vagn Ove Sorensen, a former Scandanavian Airlines executive, as BMI chairman to handle the disposal or find buyers for BMI Baby and BMI Regional. BMI lost £105m in the first six months this year
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Re: BMI - discussion générale
En plus la négo de slots doit etre plus facile qu'une reprise de la CieAVION a écrit :BA is interested in BMI, not as an airline but for its valuable take off and landing slots at overcrowded Heathrow.

... donc slots LHR pour BA et reste BMI (hors LHR) pour peanuts ... pour n'importe qui
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Virgin Atlantic Interested in Combining With Lufthansa’s BMI
Richard Branson’s Virgin Atlantic Airways Ltd. joined chief competitor British Airways in saying it’s interested in a deal with BMI, the U.K. carrier that Deutsche Lufthansa AG (LHA) has indicated may be sold.
“We continue to have a close interest in a combination with BMI,” Virgin Atlantic said today in a statement, adding that it currently works with the carrier at London’s Heathrow airport, where the two are among top slot holders after British Airways.
Lufthansa said this month it has hired a bank to help determine whether to sell BMI or persist with a turnaround plan for a company acquired under duress in 2009 after then-owner Michael Bishop exercised a put option as airline values fell during the global slump. British Airways immediately restated its long-standing interest in buying the business to gain scarce operating slots at Heathrow, Europe’s busiest passenger hub.
Exposure to markets in the Middle East and North Africa, where traffic has been crimped by political unrest, is limiting the impact of BMI’s recovery strategy, according to Stephen Furlong, a Davy Stockbrokers analyst in Dublin. The unit posted a profit in the third quarter of 2010 but had a 120 million-euro ($163 million) operating loss in the first half of this year.
Previous Approaches
International Consolidated Airlines Group SA, the owner of British Airways and Spain’s Iberia, “would be interested’ in purchasing Castle Donington, England-based BMI should it be offered for sale, Chief of Staff Julia Simpson said Sept. 2.
Comments in June from IAG Chief Executive Officer Willie Walsh stating that he has been keen on BMI “for several years now and that interest hasn’t change” still stand, she added.
At Virgin, Branson has been pursuing a merger with BMI for more than a decade, having explored the purchase of an initial stake bought by Lufthansa in 1999. Virgin CEO Steve Ridgway said in 2005 a tie-up was “the great undone deal in aviation,” with the combination of his company’s long-haul routes with BMI’s short- and mid-distance network giving the transaction “logic.”
More recently, in December 2008, Virgin said it was in talks over BMI in the run up to Lufthansa being compelled to take control, while in August 2009 it hired Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to examine a combination as the German company explored options for offloading the unit after assuming ownership.
Virgin Atlantic has itself been looking at options for a strategic investor after Branson ordered a review of the carrier’s independence when antitrust regulators allowed BA, Spain’s Iberia and AMR Corp.’s American Airlines to create a joint business on the key North Atlantic market.
Virgin Atlantic, which is closely held with Singapore Airlines Ltd. holding a minority stake, holds about 3 percent of take-off and landing positions at Heathrow. BA and Iberia, which the U.K. carrier bought to form IAG, hold about 43 percent and BMI controls about 10 percent, according to Davy’s Furlong.
Richard Branson’s Virgin Atlantic Airways Ltd. joined chief competitor British Airways in saying it’s interested in a deal with BMI, the U.K. carrier that Deutsche Lufthansa AG (LHA) has indicated may be sold.
“We continue to have a close interest in a combination with BMI,” Virgin Atlantic said today in a statement, adding that it currently works with the carrier at London’s Heathrow airport, where the two are among top slot holders after British Airways.
Lufthansa said this month it has hired a bank to help determine whether to sell BMI or persist with a turnaround plan for a company acquired under duress in 2009 after then-owner Michael Bishop exercised a put option as airline values fell during the global slump. British Airways immediately restated its long-standing interest in buying the business to gain scarce operating slots at Heathrow, Europe’s busiest passenger hub.
Exposure to markets in the Middle East and North Africa, where traffic has been crimped by political unrest, is limiting the impact of BMI’s recovery strategy, according to Stephen Furlong, a Davy Stockbrokers analyst in Dublin. The unit posted a profit in the third quarter of 2010 but had a 120 million-euro ($163 million) operating loss in the first half of this year.
Previous Approaches
International Consolidated Airlines Group SA, the owner of British Airways and Spain’s Iberia, “would be interested’ in purchasing Castle Donington, England-based BMI should it be offered for sale, Chief of Staff Julia Simpson said Sept. 2.
Comments in June from IAG Chief Executive Officer Willie Walsh stating that he has been keen on BMI “for several years now and that interest hasn’t change” still stand, she added.
At Virgin, Branson has been pursuing a merger with BMI for more than a decade, having explored the purchase of an initial stake bought by Lufthansa in 1999. Virgin CEO Steve Ridgway said in 2005 a tie-up was “the great undone deal in aviation,” with the combination of his company’s long-haul routes with BMI’s short- and mid-distance network giving the transaction “logic.”
More recently, in December 2008, Virgin said it was in talks over BMI in the run up to Lufthansa being compelled to take control, while in August 2009 it hired Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to examine a combination as the German company explored options for offloading the unit after assuming ownership.
Virgin Atlantic has itself been looking at options for a strategic investor after Branson ordered a review of the carrier’s independence when antitrust regulators allowed BA, Spain’s Iberia and AMR Corp.’s American Airlines to create a joint business on the key North Atlantic market.
Virgin Atlantic, which is closely held with Singapore Airlines Ltd. holding a minority stake, holds about 3 percent of take-off and landing positions at Heathrow. BA and Iberia, which the U.K. carrier bought to form IAG, hold about 43 percent and BMI controls about 10 percent, according to Davy’s Furlong.